The power of energY
If you’re curious to learn more about energetic hygiene, how it can support you to have more vitality and move through challenging times in life, then listen in to this week’s podcast episode.
This episode will show you a simple technique that is proven to turn on 72 genes for healing and lower cortisol levels by 24%!
I’m your host Amanda Testa, and I’m thrilled to introduce you to Transformation Coach and EFT Expert, Amy Stark.
In this episode you’ll discover that creating the life and health you want is closer than you might think.
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Amy Stark is an author, speaker, teacher and podcaster about personal transformation. For over a decade, Amy has been teaching others how to master their life and energy with the most cutting-edge tools and techniques. Amy has a degree in Psychology, a Masters in Education, is an L.M.T, and a biohacker at heart.
She is a trained Reiki Master, Reconnective Healer, E.F.T Practitioner, and is known around the world for helping people to create happier and healthier lives full of joy and purpose.
Amy's also has a podcast called, The Ophelia Podcast. You can find more about Amy and connect with her HERE.
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Amanda Testa (00:02):
Hello, and welcome to the Find Your Feminine Fire Podcast. I am your host, Amanda Testa. I am a Sex Love and Relationship coach, and in this podcast, my guests and I talk sex, love, and relationships and everything that lights you up from the inside out. Welcome. Hello everyone. And welcome to the Find Your Feminine Fire podcast. I am your host, Amanda Testa. And today I am so excited to be talking with Amy Stark of Stark Transformation, and we are going to dive into all things, energy, and really what that means and why it's so important for us to take care of our energetic health and how that really relates to all aspects of our holistic health. So we have lots of good avenues we're going to go down today. Welcome Amy. Thank you so much for being here today.
Amy Stark (00:47):
Thank you for having me. I'm excited to talk with you.
Amanda Testa (00:50):
Yeah. And I'd love if we could start, if you could share a little bit more about you and you know, what kind of led you to this energy work. I love how you used to be a science teacher and really, totally not necessarily as open to energy. And what kind of led you to change your path in the way that you have.
Amy Stark (01:08):
Yeah. It is a huge transformation. So I, and that's why my story, you can gIve the cliff notes. Yeah, no, well, you know what the thing is, is like once you hit a wall, which is what I did was, so I was a science teacher. I was working in a, in one of the most dangerous schools in the whole country probably. And I needed some tools and I didn't have them. Like, I didn't have tools to calm down. Like I was 22 years old and, you know, thought this is the way life is, you know, it's just really, really, really, really hard, really rough. Like you work really hard and you get no money for it. That was basically what I believed. And, you know, one time, one day I just was sitting there and my friend was like, why don't you try meditation? And I was like, all right, I'll try that.
Amy Stark (01:48):
And I actually was really scared to try it. I really didn't want to try it because my life was so go, go, go. And I was in New York city. And the last thing I wanted to do was stop because it's like, I guess I knew that if I stopped, I might hear a lot of, you know, what I was thinking and feeling. And you know, that how unhappy I really was. And I thought that was the path I was supposed to be on. And I didn't think I had much of a choice about that. So I started meditating and I loved it and I calmed down and then I started hearing like how I was talking to myself. And I was really like, appalled, at what I was saying to myself, what I believed, what I thought, like the limitations I placed on myself, I was like, this is all ridiculous.
Amy Stark (02:25):
So, you know, little by little, I whittled away at those things. And as I did, my gifts opened up to seeing energy, which I was definitely not looking for. Or like, you know, I thought I was crazy. I was like, this is really nuts. Like I wasn't expecting to be able to know things that, you know, most people don't know and, you know, see energy and predict things. And it was just crazy. And I'm like, I'm not a doctor. Like how would you know, how is it helpful to know that someone's going to have a heart attack or something like that? Like, there's not much I can do so over time I realized, you know, maybe I can do some energy work. And, and my friend suggested that I take a class. Cause I was like, I'm going to tell you something. I've always felt this.
Amy Stark (03:03):
I felt like, I feel like I can heal with my hands. And I felt crazy for saying that, but she received me so well, it's actually my partner now, she received me so well that she was just like, no, there's people that do that. And I was like, what? I had no idea for, you know? And I was chronically ill as a kid. You know, I just thought that that would have come up, you know, that somebody would have been able to help me if they could heal with their hands. Right. But nobody did. And anyway, so that's how it evolved. And over time, when you see these like miraculous healings happening in just one session, my, my logical brain was like, I need to figure out why this is happening. Or how is this happening? There has to be some science behind this because I know I'm not crazy. And if I am crazy, then I have to take another step, which is to go to a mental Institute because this shit is nuts.
Amanda Testa (03:52):
And you know, I think that's so true. And once you've worked with energy and you understand it, you can tell how palpable and real it is. Yeah. For anyone out there who's listening and is skeptical. I'd love. If you would share a little bit of the science around it, if you don't mind. Sure.
Amy Stark (04:06):
So of course I studied the science to help make myself not feel crazy. And I found a Bruce Lipton's book. And so he wrote The Biology of Belief and that's when he started talking about how the cells, you know, have energy and they communicate through energy. And then obviously his, his book is called the Biology Of Belief. So then I started thinking, Oh my gosh, my beliefs are, you know, energetic. And then, you know, I had some experiences working with people. And then I started seeing how the thoughts really were in the body. And then I picked up Carolyn Myss and learned about how she could read energy, be a medical medium and, or medical intuitive. And, you know, I started putting all the pieces together, but I tell you what, it was not a straight linear line. I mean, I was like bouncing all over the place, you know, learning this, that, and the other thing, figuring out about the quantum field, learning about, you know, Chinese medicine and the points.
Amy Stark (04:54):
Like I actually walked around for a really long time seeing the acupuncture points. And I was like, I don't know what they are until my friend was like, is this what you see? And it was an acupuncture book. And I was like, that's them, you know? And it was, it was just a very much like I had to stay open minded and curious and not think I was crazy. And, you know, honestly the only thing that really kept me from not thinking I was crazy was really just seeing the healings happening. It gave me the motivation to keep going.
Amanda Testa (05:21):
Yeah. And I think like you mentioned having a chronic illness and anybody that has suffered from that, or has things they've been dealing with for a long time in their life, they become more open to find solutions right out of the norm. And that can be miraculous. Like you say, because maybe something that's been playing in, in their whole lives, there is a deeper understanding that they have never looked at before and things click.
Amy Stark (05:43):
Right. Well, and that's what I kind of saw was just that these emotions were being stuck in the body and creating these patterns. And so like 10 years into my journey after learning Reiki and becoming a Reiki master and then reconnective healing and becoming a master of that and then downloading lots of information and talking to dead people. Like, I mean, it was like everything was coming in. I don't even know why everything opened up that way, but it was a lot. And who's going to say, Oh yeah. So then I saw these, these patterns and I was like, this is crazy. What causes this pattern? And it really was a stuck emotional energy. And then that's when I found EFT and I was like, this might feel the hole that I need, you know, to help people release this pattern because I was noticing I could do energy work with people and they'd be pretty good for months at a time, maybe even a year.
Amy Stark (06:29):
But I had the suspicion that it would come back, you know, the thing that we were working on and it would, and so that's when I was like, I got to figure out how to get these layers out, this emotion out, this trauma out, because it is it's everywhere in the body. And the more that I, I mean, I, I have to tell you, I dismissed EFT because it looks ridiculous. But when I heard the science about why it works, I gave it a shot for myself. I did a couple of sessions on myself and I was like, this is pretty amazing. So then I had a client who came in, who was very open minded and I said, can we work on, you know, this identity around your disease, you know, using EFT. And that opened up everything for her. Like, it was like so much relief. She was, she was like, had so much more hope, you know, she was so identifying with her disease and she didn't want it anymore. So it was pretty, pretty awesome the way that unfolded.
Amanda Testa (07:20):
Yeah. And I think, you know what you said there too is around EFT. What's so great about it is we do have things that are stored in art, in our bodies. You know, it's been proven, like trauma does live in our cells. We have things passed down through our DNA. So there's so much at play and there's numerous ways to go about getting that out. But I think what's beautiful about EFT is that it is doable. I mean, it's quick. It can be quick. It can be very doable. And for people out there who maybe are like, well, it seems so obscure. It doesn't seem, there's like, there's no tangibility to it. I feel like that's one of the things that I love about tapping is that it's very tangible. You can easily learn it. And so I am excited for you to talk more about it. Cause I've actually never had anyone on the show talking about this. So I'm looking forward to going into more detail and just sharing with the listeners, like why it's so powerful and like how you do it. So,
Amy Stark (08:10):
Okay, great. I love it. I think it's like one of the best things that we can do for ourselves. And that's why I teach children as well as adults, because it's something you can take anywhere and you don't need somebody else to help you through. And once you learn it, once you pretty much can use it for almost anything. So that's what I love about it. I mean, there is, there's a little bit of a learning curve in terms of like finding the points or remembering the points, remembering what to say. But after that, it really is just a system which I love. Cause I was from a science background and there's measurable ways to see how you've changed and shifted. I mean, I see energy and I see the energy moving and I can see the trauma that's coming out, but you don't need to see all that, but you can feel it, meaning your body starts to reset, use to your shoulders, relax.
Amy Stark (08:51):
Like you're, you know, breathing changes like people that happens all the time, people are like, I can finally breathe, you know? And it's just such a huge transformation in such a little amount of time, which is so hard to comprehend. But when you really, you know, what I love about energy is that people are like energy doesn't exist. And I'll give you an example of how it really is there and you know it, so like if you see a something that you're afraid of like a snake, right? Like I used to be afraid of snakes. How fast do you see that snake and your whole body reacts, right? Like it's seconds. It's not half a second. Right. I could be, I would have been three miles from that snake in 10 seconds, you know, because of the whole body experience. And that is energy.
Amy Stark (09:33):
That is the signal to signal the signal, the signal, you know, from cell to cell, to cell, to cell telling me that I'm in danger and get, get out of there. You know, my breathing changed my eyes, my changed, you know, I started sweating, you know, I'm running like as fast as I possibly can. So that is energy in action, you know? And, and that's the thing is like, if you really want to transform quickly really addressing the energies. And one of the ways that I find works the fastest. So that's why I really do work with people with energy. And I'm all about biohacking. And I feel like this is a biohack, you know, is a cheap biohack too, which is really great. So, yeah. And what happens like for instance, with the snake, like I said, I used to be afraid of snakes, right?
Amy Stark (10:16):
My brain, you know, doesn't need to be in that circumstance in order to get rid of the fear. So I can actually just think of one and my body will pretty much do a very similar, my brain and body will do a very similar action. Maybe I won't run, but I will start to change my physiology. And that's why I love EFT because the brain doesn't know the difference between it happening now, like in front of you or actually just imagining it. So we use that understanding to change our reality. And we can like, for instance, if we are afraid of public speaking, you know, we can imagine being in front of those people and then start doing tapping and change our relationship to that experience. So we can rewrite the story of our lives of like what we're afraid of or what we won't do or what we want to become, because we have so many limiting beliefs that we develop from the ages of zero to seven when we're just trying to figure out the world.
Amy Stark (11:10):
And we're in a different brain state, it's like more like a meditative state and we make a lot of misconnections and we have a lot of observations about the world about it being unsafe, because we're just like, you know, not understanding what's going on. Like my son, the other day, he was like, I fall the most of anybody in, the cul de sac. And I was like, I'm pretty sure that's not the case. I'm like, you may have some injuries that are pretty bad, but like there's other kids that have problems, you know, but that's the thing that he's programming in his head and I'm there to catch him and be like, you're not a victim, you know, you're learning, you know, which ways to run, like, you know, a couple months ago he ran and he wasn't looking where he was running. And I said, that's a lesson we learned, right.
Amy Stark (11:47):
We look where we're running. So when you're a kid, you're, you're really struggling. He's only six. So that's why I say that you're really struggling to understand the world and how to work within it and you know, what you want to accomplish. And unfortunately we wind up running the rest of our lives off of some of that programming and it can be really frustrating. So I tell people like, if there's a, you know, a theme in your life and you're like, what the hell? Like, why won't this go away? Like, why is this popping up all the time? It's because, you know, we, you know, experienced something in childhood and haven't let it go. And it just is like this underlying theme and EFT can address that, which is really cool. And you don't need to know exactly why you don't need to know that you were six and running without facing forward. Right. But your, your energy in your body remembers that story and we'll release it and you'll feel a heck of a lot better.
Amanda Testa (12:38):
I think that's one of the beautiful things about working somatically working with the body is that you don't have to go back necessarily to relive things. You just create these opportunities for the shocks to release from your system. You create the opportunities for things to release.
Amy Stark (12:51):
Right. Well, and that's what I noticed. So I actually have a psychology degree and I didn't want to go into therapy because I felt like it wasn't a complete process. And what I love about EFT is you're really talking about how you feel about the situation, but you're also removing the trauma that might be holding those feelings there. So that was the camp that I finally found the complete process 20 years later, or something like that 15 years later. So it's really important to address both pieces because we can talk all we want and try to like really use positive thinking and things like that. But if we have underlying beliefs that we're not good enough, or we're a perfectionist or something like that, it's can really hold us back from experiencing the life that we want.
Amanda Testa (13:30):
Yeah. And I think perfectionism comes in a lot. I mean, so many of the women that I work with are, you know, they're usually have families and they're kind of longterm partnership often and they have businesses or careers that they're, you know, really successful in. And they have all these things that they're constantly trying to manage and be the best at. And then some, sometimes like really deeply inside, they feel like they're failing in all aspects because there's just not enough time in the day, or, you know, just putting so much pressure on themselves to like make it all perfect, which is really unrealistic.
Amy Stark (14:01):
Totally. I used to be a perfectionist. And so I really can speak from experience. I truly believe based on my own experience and working with lots of women who are also perfectionists, that women are energetically sensitive. And the fact that people are, you know, we grow up with these people in our energetic space, you know, because we're so sensitive to other people and we can, we can feel that, you know, they want something from us. And so we're like, it's easier for me to just to do that thing. And then they'll get out of my space and that becomes a habit and very highly rewarding, right. Becoming become a good child or, you know, we're not a problem for our parents or we really excel in things because we can sense what the person wants from us. But we wind up being 30, 40 years old and looking back and being like, what the hell?
Amy Stark (14:47):
I never experienced? Like things that I wanted to really experience I was doing it for mom was doing for dad. You know, I was doing it for whoever and you know, it really can be frustrating. So like, what's interesting is I didn't realize that I could just pull people's energy out of my space, turn that fight or flight. Cause it's really irritating to have people in your space and like having an agenda. So you pull them out of your space and then you can decide, okay. Yeah, I will do that. That is in alignment with me or no, that's not in alignment with me. I remember your story about how you said after you had a baby, you know, you are doing all the things and you know, you thought that it was what you were supposed to be doing. Right. But it was really draining. It wasn't, you know, fulfilling you in the ways that you thought it would. And so like, that's where we get a chance to step back clear, everybody's energy at our space and be like, what do you want? You know, what, what do I desire? What, where do I want to be? How do I want to experience life? So anyway, that's a process that you can do where you clear your energetic self. This is separate from EFT, but it's important that we know that we have that ability to do that.
Amanda Testa (15:48):
Can you also have on your website, a great tool around that, right? Yes.
Amy Stark (15:52):
So yeah, when you sign up on the email list, it's the first thing that sent to you is how to clear your energy. It's really important
Amanda Testa (15:58):
Yeah, because I energetic hygiene now, like you said before, when you're taking on all these other people's energy, it's hard to just discern what you really want. And I think that, especially when you are a mom or have a lot of people in your house, that's so common because you don't have a minute, there's something on your body, often hours of the day.
Amy Stark (16:17):
Yes, totally. And then, you know, if you're a working mom, you have double it right in your space or maybe even triple. So it's really important to be able to clear that energy out. But then once we get everybody out of our space, we start to be like, okay, I know who I am, but then it's like that silence that you get with like meditation or awareness that you're like, okay, so now everybody's out of my space. What do I want, why did I do all these things? Why was I so set on having to be perfect? And now how do I undo that? Right? How do I, I know how to get people out of my space now. So I don't have to feel like, you know, I have to do it, but like, how do I develop the path that I want? And that's when EFT really comes in and helps us to rewrite the trauma of disappointment, because we feel that disappointment so deeply when we're younger, right. When we don't do the thing and that trauma stays there. So we're going to, despite having people in our, or out of our space, we might still fall into the trap of, I don't want to make that person feel bad or something like that. You know? So we rewrite that programming and others.
Amanda Testa (17:17):
One of the other things I think is interesting. And maybe we could even talk more to this when you get into the EFT, but around how, you know, I see a lot of women that struggle with body image, especially after having kids. And, you know, that really comes into play with regards to intimacy because they don't feel comfortable. Of course, naked. They don't feel comfortable in their skin. They don't feel comfortable in their body. And can you speak to how EFT helps them?
Amy Stark (17:40):
Right. I remember we were talking about the anxiety of like, you know, having not the perfect body or that you have so many things on your plate, like, you know, laundry, whatever, you know, tapping on. Why do I believe that? I know a lot of my body image stuff came from my mom. And so I had to sort through that stuff, you know, and I did a lot of tapping and a lot of releasing and being like, I don't really feel that way about my body, but like something in me is programmed that way. Right. Cause you, you come from your grandmother really. I mean, you're an egg inside your grandmother and then your mother, you know, you're an egg inside your mother, whatever. You're basically getting at least that much information from your lineage based on the female side. And there could be a lot of body image stuff in there, and it's not your fault.
Amy Stark (18:27):
And obviously with society, the way that it's, you know, they're massively programming us around what we should look like, what we should be wearing, that kind of stuff. And if it's not something that you subscribe to, you can use the ET to change that thinking and really love yourself more. And you know, that's what I noticed is like the more that we follow the path that we want to be following, the more that we know that we have purpose and we enjoy what we're doing, the more we love ourselves. And in fact, that's what we say in EFT is I love and accept myself no matter what, which is beautiful.
Amanda Testa (18:58):
Yeah. And I think that loving acceptance bring that to whatever is present is so important. And it's a challenge. Like it's a practice because it's not always easy. Well, it's not easy to sit with the deep, painful searing things that we have to hold ourselves through often. But that also is part of the work. And that's why I think, you know, when you're having those really deep emotions that are challenging, you know, allowing yourself to feel them and also having tools to work through them like anxiety, like, cause that's another big one that comes up with regards to body image or intimacy is that there is a lot of anxiety often.
Amy Stark (19:33):
Well, and there's a lot of trauma that people have experienced, unfortunately, and this is great for getting rid of that. Or at least basically what it is. A lot of people think, are you eracing my memory or am I going to be erasing my memory? No, but the charge is taken out of the body about that particular situation. So it's not continuing to haunt you, right. It's not coming into the present moment and sneaking in, in times that you're not expecting you to, or wanting it to be there. So, you know, it can help to release that trauma. It can help to, it's helped severely with anxiety and depression and PTSD and you know, weight loss actually too. And you know, so many limiting beliefs that we have that I just absolutely love it. I know. I keep saying that it's the perfect tool.
Amanda Testa (20:16):
Well, I'm wondering if you, if it's something you could walk us through.
Amy Stark (20:19):
Sure. But before I do that, I do want to say what the science is behind, what happens. Yeah. So essentially when you have an experience, like for instance, seeing the snake and you want to like reprogram that you normally, your whole body is heightened and then you start pairing it with this EFT. So you're going to be tapping on the body. You're going to be bringing yourself into the present moment. So a lot of times, like when we experienced trauma like that, we check out, right. It's almost like we don't even know that we're not running well. You know, we're all of a sudden, we're like, wow, I'm like three blocks away and I didn't realize it. So we check out. So this helps us to get back into our bodies. That's where we can process the energy kind of wakes us up. It also is very common because you're touching the body, right?
Amy Stark (21:00):
So you're, anytime we touch the body it's soothing, this is also something you want to do. That's rhythmic. So you're going to tap on the body in a nice, rhythmic way. If at all, there's any pain just back off, you know, like you don't have to hit so hard on or tap so hard on the body. And then what happens is, is the brain says, normally we're upset. You know, when this is happening and now we're feeling something calming, this is a faulty program. So we're going to take it down. It's, it's actually dangerous to our survival. So your neural network that was holding all this trauma that was related to this situation gets taken down and a new orientation to the world begins to emerge. So the neural network now begins to say, I'm safe when this happens and that's the beauty of it.
Amy Stark (21:42):
And so you wind up shifting your what's called your reticular activating system to see the world differently and bring in, you know, the awareness that like I've seen a thousand snakes, you know, before I haven't been bitten, you know, I'm okay to go for a run or whatever. And you start to stay on that one time where, or sorry, on the many times that you are safe and not focus on the one time where maybe came a little closer, maybe you did get unfortunately bit or something like that. But you know, it really, it really shifts your thinking and you no longer have that visceral reaction. So that's really the neuroscience of what's happening within the brain, in the body. What I see energetically is also layers are releasing from the body and the trauma. So like they say that the issues are in the tissues and that literally is what's happening is the issues are leaving from the tissues and the tissues get to relax or they get to heal or whatever.
Amy Stark (22:34):
And that's, that's the important thing is that the more that we work on, you know, releasing these things that cause trauma that are triggering us, like the anxiety or whatever, we may be experiencing, our fight or flight gets turned off. That's when we get to rest and digest and heal and expand our energy field become have a better immune system become more in tune with our higher self. You know, there's so much that happens when we do this practice. So, all right. So I'll talk you through it. Are you ready? Let's do it. Okay. So there's one point that's on the hand and it's right below the pinky and it's on the fatty part. It's like, we call it the karate chop point, but yeah, so that's, that's actually the heart Meridian line. And so anything that has to do with grief or, you know, love situations that you were wanting to release.
Amy Stark (23:21):
I think a lot of autoimmune disease problems are related to the heart chakra of being ignored or the heart energy being ignored. And I love that science is now saying that the heart field is the conductor of the orchestra that is your body. So like when your heart or your feelings are not being felt, you know, and you're not in, you're suppressing them and you're not living your purpose or happy that really affects the whole body. So that's the heart Meridian line. So you're going to tap on that and you're going to say, which one do you want to work on? Do you have something that you want to work on? I don't know. There's many things. Well, it's funny if you talk about the snakes, because we have like this black widow infestation in our backyard. Oh no, I know it's not a big deal, but they freak me out and Oh, I would be so freaked out every time I go out and like sweep the back patio, I'm like terrible.
Amy Stark (24:09):
And you live close to me. So now I'm scared, very small problem in the big scheme of things. But I think, you know, it's something that we could, it's just right. He came to me because I was sweeping this morning and I realized I'm afraid of spiders. Okay. So what's interesting is usually our back patio is where we relax, you know? And so you're losing out on that piece of your, part of your life, right? You're losing out on that opportunity to just let go and relax and be with nature and not feel scared. And I work with a lot of people who have, or I have worked with a lot of people who have Lyme disease, which comes from, you know, ticks and that keeps them from going outside, you know? And that keeps them afraid of like connecting with the earth, which is not a good thing. Right. So let's do it. Cause I do try to live in harmony with nature when I'm out there, I'm like, all right, when I come back, just be gone, this is my place. Yeah. So, so let's take a deep breath in and out. Cause I like to start there. And I think that a deep breath really helps to connect us to safety and awareness. So let's take a deep breath in and out.
Amy Stark (25:16):
So we're going to start at the hand and on a scale of zero to 10. Yeah. Zero to 10. How much is it bothering you? 10 being, not 10 being a lot and zero being, not at all. Hmm. Probably like a five or six. Okay. So it's not too bad. That's good. Okay. So what might come up is that you might go up in the scale and then come back down. So we might really find out that it's part of another program that you're running around. Maybe things being unpredictable or jumping out at you or something like that. Right. Or, you know, that might, I'm not safe when I'm outside. Who knows. Let's see. So take a deep breath in and out.
Amy Stark (25:56):
So we're going to tap on the hand at the karate chop point. We're going to say, even though I'm at a six around this, even though I'm at a six around this, I deeply love and accept myself. I deeply love and accept myself. Good. So if you're not comfortable, if you're listening and you don't like saying, I deeply love and accept myself, you can change that to whatever you feel comfortable. Like I'm willing to love myself. I can love myself or accept myself. If you're working with a kid, you could say I'm still a good kid, that kind of stuff. So take a deep breath in and out.
Amy Stark (26:32):
Okay, good. So then we're going to go to the top of the head and we're going to say, Oh, sorry. The top of the head would be like right in the center. Sometimes it's really sore. Like you get headaches and things like that. There's just like one point that just seems to get sore for me. And that's where a lot of emotion might get caught up. You know, like when it's trying to leave the body, that's what I find is just it's up there. So you just tap. If it hurts, just go lighter. And you're going to say, even though, even though I'm afraid of spiders, I'm afraid of spiders. I deeply love and accept myself. I deeply love and accept myself. Good. Take a deep breath in. And I already feel like you're dropping down to a five. So let's we could keep going. W how do you feel? Like, are you still at a six? It feels, yeah. It feels a little better actually. Okay. Sometimes we just need to talk about it because we're just holding it in because we feel silly, but like, we just need that opportunity to just talk about it. Okay. So take another deep breath in and out.
Amy Stark (27:31):
This is not a situation where you're going to like go out there and like find them and hug them. Right. You're just like, want to exist with them. Right. So let's take a deep breath in and out. So now we're going to go to the inner eyebrow and we're going to tap on the inner eyebrow. This is usually around anger and frustration. Okay. So I feel some anger coming up. Do you, can you tell us you're pretty energetically aware. Do you feel any tightness when you're tapping there? It does feel a little, like my feels like a tightness in my nose too. Yeah. And your jaw. Yeah. You're wiggling your nose. Yeah. Your jaw is like, ah, do you grind your teeth at all? Do I have TMJ? Yep. There we go. So I can feel that. So as an energy healer, someone who is sensitive to energy, I can feel where this is stock. So let's take a deep breath in and out.
Amy Stark (28:22):
So we're going to say, even though I'm angry that Whoa. So sometimes I, I I have to just do the thing to let it go. So even though I have this anger around these spiders being in my backyard, even though I have this anger about these spiders being in my backyard, I deeply love and accept myself. I deeply love and accept myself. Good. Take a huge deep breath in and out. Okay. Let's go to the outside of the eye. So it's right at the corner of the eye we're going to, this is also around frustration and anger. So what's this thing about sweeping? What are you doing? Do you, are I see frustration or anger around the sweeping? Anything in particular? Hm. I dunno. I just think that, you know, that's where I mostly worry because that's where my daughter plays all the time and her okay.
Amy Stark (29:21):
I just know, like for smaller kids, they're more susceptible to get sick if they get bitten by a black widow. And so that's what I think, I worry about that. It's like the protective mama bear, right. They're like, perfect. Okay. So what we want to do is we want to acknowledge all that. And just say, even though I'm frustrated that I'm, I have to be worried about my daughter playing on the back porch, even though I'm frustrated and worried about my daughter playing on the back porch and possibly getting bitten and possibly getting bitten. Ooh, that was, that was your fight or flight energy in the back of the neck. Did you feel that take a deep breath in and out, And then we're going to go to the under the eye. So this is right at the center of the eye. There's actually a divot there that you can kind of just use as a guide, but that's basically where you want to tap. And this is about control. So any energy around control that might be stuck in the body, it helps to release it. So take a deep breath in and out.
Amy Stark (30:26):
Good. Even though I have this fear of the spiders, even though I have this fear of the spiders, I deeply love and accept myself. I deeply love and accept myself. Even though I have this fear of the spiders, even though I have this fear of the spiders, I still love and accept myself. I still love and accept myself, even though. So now you're like, I'm less worried about them with me. I'm more worried about them with her. That's more of your energy. So let's, let's talk about that. Your nose is really going, isn't it. Did you notice how I kept rubbing my nose in the beginning of the session when we were talking and I'm like, what is this all about in my head? I was thinking, all right, take a deep breath in and out. Even though I'm really worried about them hurting her, even though I'm really worried about them hurting her and not being able to protect her and not being able to protect her. Good. I deeply love and accept myself. I deeply love and accept myself. Can I take a deep breath in and out? We're going to go under the nose. So this is where the fur Nellum is. Is that what it's called? I think so. For none of them, I don't know. It's the two lines underneath the nose, so we're going to tap there. And we're gonna say, even though I have this fear that she's going to get hurt, even though I have this fear that, Ooh, you really are a big mama bear there. I can feel that. Could you feel that coming from your heart space and on your shoulders, take a deep breath in and out?
Amy Stark (31:56):
Even though I'm scared. She's going to get hurt, even though I'm scared, she's going to get hurt and that I can't block her from that. And that I can't block her from that. I can't change that. I can't change that. Even though there may be times that I can't stop her getting hurt, even though there may be times that I can't stop her getting hurt. Do you feel like you're going to cry? Yeah. Yeah. So take a deep breath in and out, and that will happen. Right?
Amy Stark (32:29):
Good breathe. I could feel in your throat getting caught up and almost like you couldn't swallow or like swollen, take a deep breath in and out again, we can stop tapping under the nose. Good. We're going to go under the lip. So right on the chin and on my website, you can go to starktraansformation.com/EFT for a diagram of this so that you don't have to like really pay attention to exactly where I'm at. But if you need that, you can get that. So take a deep breath in and out. What does this part relate to? So this is about speaking your truth. So like they're words that have gotten caught up, right. That you haven't said, and it's a huge release. Whoa. Sometimes we do want to, so I just made my mouth really wide. Yeah. It's just good to kind of like release the energy because there, it really is when we want to say something and we clamp down on our mouth, like we feel that energy take another deep breath in and out. Good. Let's still stay there even though, even though Whoa. Okay. So sometimes you're going to start to yawn and that's just unconscious energy that was there that was kind of perpetuating this program. So what I'm seeing is a, a father figure that's causing this like protection feeling. Okay. So take a deep breath in and out.
Amy Stark (33:51):
So do you want to talk about that at all? Or no, the father figure energy. Yeah. So I'm seeing that there's like that Papa bear kind of like energy and it's almost like wanting that energy for her. Cause you felt safe because of him
Amanda Testa (34:11):
Take a deep breath in and out
Amy Stark (34:15):
Or I should say you felt his strength. Okay. So let's talk about that.
Amy Stark (34:25):
You know, when you're a kid and you just think your parents can just protect you from anything, a lot of us do feel that way. Right? We were, I was just talking with somebody recently about like how I didn't realize that my mom was like a person for like ever. So I became an adult. I think life is a little different now, you know, we're a little bit more open with our kids about our emotions and our life and they know more and we have conversations with them and stuff. So things are different now, but it's kind of funny to think about, but anyway, there's that little girl in you wanting that safety, that feeling of protection. So take a deep breath in and out and we're still tapping underneath the lip on the chin to, so the listeners know deep breath in and out, See how one kind of fear is, you know, connected to a belief, right. Or a thought pattern. So we go, we just go wherever the energy is, we just pay attention to how we're feeling or what's coming up to get a breath in and out.
Amy Stark (35:24):
Okay. So we're going to go to K 27, which is where the collarbone is. So right next to it, there's a, what's called the K 27 points. And I like to make a C with my hand and then tap there because it's easier than to do two hands. It's up to you. You can also just tap on one point. You don't have to do bilateral, but I personally find that more relaxing doing it, both sides and just one side. So take a deep breath in and out and I'm, we're going to revisit the fear. So even though I have this fear, even though I have this fear of black widow spiders, spiders, I deeply love and accept myself. I deeply love and accept myself. How are you feeling? I actually feel much more grounded. I feel like not quite as,uactivated we're now in the parasympathetic. Right? Cause we're calming our nervous system down. Right. So even though I have this fear, even though I have this fear, I deeply love and accept my,
Speaker 3 (36:29):
So I deeply love and accept myself.
Amy Stark (36:31):
Okay, good. We're going to go over the heart. So we're going to just, this is not actually standard EFT, but I really believe that it's a good one. So it's where we would imagine the heart being. But I know the heart is a little bit to the left scientists and me, but it's really where your thymus is. If you know where your thymus is, which most people don't, but it's just the center of your chest. So you want to tap on there and that's a good way of connecting with that. Mama bear energy. So any kind of that love feeling, there you go to get your breath in and out. Even though I can't protect her from everything,
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Even though I can't protect her from everything, but I want to, and I want,
Amy Stark (37:12):
I deeply love and respect myself. I deeply love and respect myself. Good, take another deep breath in and out. We'll go to the spleen and liver points. So these would be where the bra line would be or like a hands with down. If you're a man and you can either do one side or both sides, if you can reach across, you can kind of give yourself a hug. I can't reach across. So I just do it like a monkey and then tap on both sides. This would be also where anger would be. So liver is very much anger, energy. So you can tune into that if there's any of that, still there, breath in and out. So yeah, there's some energy coming up. We can talk about later, but anyway, take a deep breath in and out.
Amy Stark (38:03):
Okay. So what we want to do is just take a deep breath in and out and ground, you know, and then we'd check in with ourselves on a scale of zero to 10, how we did on that round. So like did it go down or did it go up? Cause sometimes it does go up, like I said, it's, you know, or now you're dealing with two issues and then you can tune in. You could say, where am I at on this issue? And that issue, you know, in this, on a scale of zero to 10 and try to measure both those. So honestly when you're, when you're tapping, the research is around an hour of tapping, which is a long time of tapping, but that's what the research says. And so if you tap for an hour, you actually turn on 72 genes for healing and you lower cortisol levels by 24%. So super awesome statistics there. But I really tell people, you know, any amount of tapping is great amount of tapping. So, you know, if you want to tap in the shower or I know people tap at stoplights or kids right before lunch, you know, go to the bathroom and tap or tap under the desk, you know, and that calms them if they have ADHD, you know? So it just, any amount of handling your emotions little by little, this is really helpful.
Amanda Testa (39:11):
Beautiful. I also think, you know, like you mentioned for kids, we've used it for our daughter when she had a hard time sleeping and like she was afraid to go to sleep.
Amy Stark (39:20):
It's huge for kids with sleeping. Yeah. It's amazing how they can be like, Oh, I'm not going to sleep. You're like, well it's bed time and you need to go to sleep. And like, this is mommy's time to go and, you know, relax. And so if you start tapping then within, around there, usually like a round of tapping. So it'd be all the points they will fall asleep or, you know, be like, I'm ready for sleep now. I mean, my, my, my son will like push me out of the room and be like, okay, mom. Okay.
Amanda Testa (39:49):
Okay. I love it. And then I think too, you know, what's great about it. Cause you mentioned, you know, I know meditation is such a big part of what you teach as well in your practice. So for people that maybe have a hard time meditating because they just can't sit still for whatever reason. Like I think tapping is a beautiful way to like take that time to tune in, but have like an active thing you're doing.
Amy Stark (40:07):
Yeah. I agree. I mean, I wish I had known EFT, especially back then because I was so stressed out. It was really scary to actually sit with my thoughts, but with EFT you can kind of get there and start moving out some of the trauma and then meditation becomes actually easier because you're not there. Aren't so many thoughts. There, there isn't so much trauma to be tuning into and things like that. So I really think anybody can do EFT and it really can help them progress along in life.
Amanda Testa (40:34):
Beautiful. And so, and I thank you so much for taking the time to share that. And just for anyone listening, I'll make sure to put in the show notes where you can find how to get in touch with Amy and learn more about, you know, this practice and all the amazing work that she does. So can you share a little bit more about where everyone can find you?
Amy Stark (40:52):
Sure. So my website is www.starktransformation.com and I have a podcast called The Ophelia podcast and we talk about EFT and energy and healing and things like that and transformation and I'm on all the social media handles @ starktransformation or The Ophelia Podcast
Amanda Testa (41:06):
Beautiful. And I love how you say, you know, if there's any last words that you'd like to leave the listeners with, I'd love to hear you share. I know how one of the things that you shared with me was, you know, uncovering the real you and how often times all these things are weighing us down. We're not even really aware of it, but maybe just share a little bit more about any last words or if there's a question that you really wished that I would have asked that I did not ask,
Amy Stark (41:29):
I really hope that everybody knows that they are energetic beings and that they have more control over how they feel than they ever imagined. And that if they want to create the life that they want, starting with something like EFT is really going to be helpful for them. And to stay curious, you know, wonder why you're having a symptom or why there's resistance or why something keeps showing up, you know, and use EFT to get to that new place that you want to be. And that new orientation to the world that you want to have. That's what I would say. Beautiful. And you also work with clients one on one and have an online course, so make sure to check out Amy and all her amazing offerings. Yeah. Thank you so much for having me. I loved being here. That was super fun. And thank you everyone for listening and we'll see you next week.
Amy Stark (42:17):
Thank you so much for listening to the Find your Feminine Fire podcast. This is your host, Amanda Testa. And if you have felt a calling while listening to this podcast to take this work to a deeper level, this is your golden invitation. I invite you to reach out. You can contact me@ amandatesta.com/activate, And we can have a heart to heart to discuss more about how this work can transform your life. You can also join us on Facebook and the group find your feminine fire group. And if you've enjoyed this podcast, please share with your friends, go to iTunes and give me a five star rating and a raving review. So I can connect with other amazing listeners like yourself. Thank you so much for being a part of the community.