Pleasure Is Fuel, not a reward
"How do we unlearn the fear and shame around our sexuality in order to change the way we connect to our bodies, our intimate partners to the world and our relationship with our spiritual self? How does our relationship to the erotic or lack thereof support or impede our ability to thrive?"
These are the questions posed by my amazing guest today,Rashida KhanBey Miller, and she invites these with her work and her practice.
Tune in as we discuss how to invite Pleasure, Rest and Radiance is the messiness of life.
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This week I'm thrilled to be talking with Rashida KhanBey Miller (Rashi/she/her) Artist, Educator, Founder of The Messy Movement Lab, Co-Host of Podcast Queer & Married, Co-Owner of The Lingerie Boutique The Temptress' Boudoir, and Executive Producer and Co-Star of Film Series "Sex Is A God Thing". Born and raised in Chicago, IL,
Rashi fell in love with dance at a very young age studying Ballet, Jazz, Modern, Lyrical, and Sacred Dance spanning over 20+ years. She went on to receive her bachelor's degree in Theatre from The University of Illinois at Chicago to launching her professional career teaching, speaking and uplifting feminine spectrum people in healing through the storytelling of movement in live classes across the U.S. and expanding into a global audience through online education.
Over the last decade, Rashi has inspired people worldwide to talk about their relationship to self-love, sensuality, and healing trauma through dance and movement as an integral part of their spiritual recovery and thriving. Rashi's work has been featured on Gene Siskel Film Center, Sisters in Cinema, OpenTV, AfroPunk, ForHarriet, Unfit Christian, The Sexually Liberated Woman Podcast, Elephant Journal, BlackDoctors.org, ClexaCon Film Festival, The Black Femme Supremacy Film Festival, and more. Rashi currently resides in The Pacific Northwest spending her day's co-creating in business and life with her Spouse, Ajani Miller (he/they).
She created the Messy Movement Lab as a playground for healing our relationship to our bodies through dance + movement. This class provides a safe sanctuary for Feminine Spectrum people, to be able to unpack the relationship we've been conditioned to have to ourselves so that we can embody confidence, sovereignty, and agency in our lives. Ultimately, this studio is designed to teach you how to welcome relaxation and how to tend to tired, physical and spiritual, muscles. As we pour back into ourselves, we refill our tanks and reinvigorate our lives with a sense of connection, purpose, and joy.
Click here for her training on How To Fit Self Care Into The Messy Parts Of Life.
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Amanda Testa (00:01):
Hello, and welcome to the Find Your Feminine Fire Podcast. I am your host, Amanda Testa. I am a Sex Love and Relationship Coach, and in this podcast, my guests and I talk Sex, Love. And Relationships and everything that lights you up from the inside out. Welcome. Hello everyone. And welcome. How do we unlearn the fear and shame around our sexuality in order to change the way we connect to our bodies, our intimate partners to the world and our relationship with our spiritual self. How does our relationship to the erotic or lack thereof support or impede our ability to thrive? These are the questions from my amazing guests today Rashida KhanBey Miller, and she invites these with her work and her practice. Rashi is an artist, educator, founder of The Messy Movement lab, co-host of the podcast Queer+Married co-owner of the lingerie boutique. The Temptress's Boudior, and the executive producer and CoStar of the film series Sex is a God thing, which is amazing. So she is multitalented, but just, is doing so many amazing things in the world. And so I'm very, very thrilled to have you as a guest guest today. Rashi, thank you so much for being here.
Rashida Khanbey Miller (01:18):
Thank you. Thank you for having me. I'm like I'm the energy just feels so good. And you know, we took a few breaths before we started and that. Just really, that felt really good. Thank you.
Amanda Testa (01:31):
Well, I know some of the things that we're going to dive in today around that really has struck me around pleasure as fuel and just, you know, with when things feel crazy or hard, like all the things that are going on right now, sometimes it can feel right. It feels like such a hard thing. And I love your perspective that actually kind of using that as a fuel, not a reward. And before we dive into all that though, I'd love, if you would maybe share a little bit about, you know, more about you and more about why you're so passionate about this work.
Rashida Khanbey Miller (02:05):
Wow. I began this work in maybe 2009, you know, I've been dancing pretty much all of my life, but this works specifically around, you know, coming back into the body and rebuilding or regenerating a generous relationship to our bodies that allows for us to experience pleasure without guilt or without shame or without inhibition, you know, began as a result of a study abroad that I did in Brazil, it was actually my second time going to Brazil, But this time I was alone, you know, unchaperoned quote unquote, you know, it was like doing this study abroad with my colleagues and it was just such a life changing experience being in this country where I was walking down the street and people saw me and it wasn't, you know, to not be invisible, right? Like my experience growing up in the US as a person of size as a dark skinned black woman who is upside is very different, was very different from the experience that I had, like being on the streets of Bahia and like seeing other women that looked like me who had bodies like me.
Rashida Khanbey Miller (03:26):
And like, they're just being a fullness and a presence and a praise and adoration around that body in particular. So it's just a very interesting shift in narrative to like, you know, to go from one place where your body is constantly seen as a problem or things to fix or something that needs to be, you know, shaped in a different way and, you know, in all the facets. And so to going to a place where it's like more of you, it's like, there's like an asking of more of, for you to like, you know, be in your body in a way that justs feel good to dance or move to like enjoy the foods, enjoy this. It's like rich energy. And I think I was also there during the summer months. And so, you know, some people who probably live in Bahia probably like, you know, the energy changes definitely, you know, politically and,uin, in,and in relationship to the weather.
Rashida Khanbey Miller (04:21):
So, you know, I don't want to paint this, like, you know, the fantasy of Brazil because there's just as much problems there, you know, as we have here in the U S but this experience that I had, you know, really allowed for me to, you know, have a, have a different experience in my body. And I, you know, as a dancer growing up, I had the, I kind of had that internal push to, you know, keep going and it's kind of avoid and the things that were happening, but it definitely took a toll and feeling like there wasn't a lot of space for me in the dance community in a way that honored me. And didn't like, put me into this constant cycle of like, you know, trying to fix or change something about my body in order to do this thing that I loved.
Rashida Khanbey Miller (05:07):
And so, you know, I, tried to find my way around at the best way that I could. And you know, this, when I was in Brazil, I told myself I was going to wear a bikini for the first time. And so I got, like, I bought a Brazilian bikini while I was there. And so, you know, yellow, you know, those bikini's, they're like nothing, it's just a string of material. And I was just so excited. Like I just, I was just, I mean, thrilled to no end, you know, to be walking down the beach in this body and, you know, at this size and like feeling good and, you know, not feeling like I had to cover myself up, so I wasn't making other people uncomfortable and you know, all of this other stuff. And so, you know, I brought the, you know, my culmination of experiences from that study abroad back home with me and just kept trying to find ways to reembody that energy of like feeling liberated in my body at whatever size I was, you know, an honoring this energy of the movement of Bahia, just like in my hips and, and also wanting to have a very generous relationship to my body that felt sensual, that felt alive, that felt erotic in ways that, you know, not just in terms of like the act of sex, but just the idea this concept of being alive, you know, the aliveness, you know, and how integral that energy is to be able to show up each day and not just like, you're not just there, if that makes sense.
Amanda Testa (06:39):
Yeah. That makes total sense. And having that aliveness to help with resilience and with, you know, really feeling present in whatever it is that you're experiencing.
Rashida Khanbey Miller (06:52):
Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. You know, because I won't ramble, but you know, if we're not, if we don't have that connection in some ways we feel it, you know what I mean? We feel it in our, in the way that we're interacting in our day to day relationships in our lives, we feel it in the way we approach our work, we feel that that energy of being stuck. And we talk about this in the Messy Movement Lab, as this understanding, where our muscle memory has kind of locked itself around a certain, experience, you know, in terms of like somatic work, right, we call this like when your trauma responses get activated and, you know, they can, they can go in a number of directions. They can partner up, you know, like you can be having two different trauma responses at the same time and your body's negotiating around that.
Rashida Khanbey Miller (07:47):
And so if our muscle memory only knows those, that, that stress response or that state of being as it's safe zone, the place where you feel protective, where you feel at ease, the place where you feel like you can like navigate life, you know, when we start to introduce pleasure and any type of way to that equation, their body, they're like, what is this? What is this foreign object that you are trying to like, make fit in this puzzle? You know, that there's no space for pleasure here, right? And so oftentimes people will go into these practices and feel, you know, like they have to come in already together, like already with enough information, like, you know, already confident enough to like, apply what they learned. You know, just like having all of these built up, you know, obstacles or resistance points.
Rashida Khanbey Miller (08:35):
And I'm sure that you probably see this in your work as well. And it's like, no, that's the very reason why you're here. You know, it's to be able to kind of have that start that conversation, you know, and build the trust to the work and the practice and enough in enough with enough safeness with, you know, I love the concept, you know, in thinking of complex trauma, when we talk about spaces being safe enough opposed to it's totally safe and creating these fantasies and these ideals, as opposed to being able to say like, no, I'm going to allow myself the opportunity to build a relationship with this, with this, with this piece, or with this work, or with this practice or this person over time. And then allow that time to, you know, be a guide in the unlearning for my muscle memory. You know, because if I, if I just try to throw it at it, you know, throw the tool at it and, you know, hope that that's like the magic, the magic pill or the magic thing, you know, I really don't ever have the opportunity to build ar elationship to a practice that continuously saves me, continuously feeds me. That continuously pours back into me.
Amanda Testa (09:46):
That's powerful. And one of the things that you just said, I just want to reflect back if I can, because it felt so good to hear around time, to be a guide in your unlearning. And I think that time piece is so big. It just feels nice to relax into that. It doesn't, you know, we often want things so quick, especially in our culture. It's like, Oh, we need to be this way and you gotta do this and you gotta do it now. And you gotta work harder at your self improvement or whatever the things, right.
Rashida Khanbey Miller (10:13):
Yeah. Yeah. We're always trying to get to that final IG production, you know, you know, with our perfect, with our perfect pictures of our perfect self-care plan with our perfect life and our perfect house with our perfect sex life, with our perfect marriage, you know, like we're always trying to get to that, that what are those images? And, you know, I just want to give everybody a wake up call they're stock images. Those are stock images, right? Like the real picture, like the meat, the context of that thing requires that you be present and you can't, you can't be numb and be present at the same time. You have to choose like, numbness is a protective mechanism, but it is if we have to understand that. And within that space that we are, you know, we're withdrawing ourselves from being present. And so that can be an active choice, but we also have to know how to make the choice to be present.
Rashida Khanbey Miller (11:11):
And that presence requires dealing with the discomfort and the fear and the confusion and the anxiety and the worry and the like, you know, what am I doing? And the doubt in the journey over time of building relationship to this new thing that you're asking to change your life. Like, we don't pick up a healing practice to say, Oh, I've got this powerful tool in my back pocket that I'd never ever actually use. I just want to let you know, I have it there. Right. Okay. That's useful. Right. And think about all of the tools, you know, people have learned over the course of time, but never do. They never really applied themselves to it. Right. Because they're looking for that quick, pick me up in like, Oh, I'm going to read this book and I'll be healed. Or, you know, I'm going to take this five day class and I'll figure it out.
Rashida Khanbey Miller (12:00):
You know? And it's always about just getting to the finish line as opposed to being able to curate a journey and being like, if you start here and, you know, there's all of this stress or tension or trauma or whatever that's built up in this place, what makes you think all of that is going to unravel in one five day class or 10 minutes, one time, every six months that you decide to meditate, right? Like it's, it's about building the, the, the disciplines to be consistent in your exploration and in your playfulness, and in your imagination.
Amanda Testa (12:33):
And I love how you mentioned too about, and I want you to talk more about the messy movement lab in a moment, but you know how you have all these familiar pains. And so you live into the unfamiliar pleasure that does not feel good to our systems often. And so it's like that. And one of my mentors, Rachel Maddox, was sharing around this the other day around. She's awesome. I am. And so it's really, so you have to find those places where it feels safe enough to tip toe in. Right. And know that there's, we can do it at a way that feels doable. Yeah.
Rashida Khanbey Miller (13:13):
Yes. As opposed to like jarring yourself. Right. Because then who's the goal really for, at that point, right? Like if there's such a demand on you getting to this place, as opposed to you being able to enjoy, enjoy the process of unlearning and unfolding and unraveling this tension that you've carried around a specific subject for however long. Like, if it's not about that. And, and I say that because in that, what I'm learning for myself is in that process of being able to sit with your own unraveling and that, and seeing things unfold and, and, and you start to project like a new lens on it, like the story changes, you know what I mean? And like all of these stories of pain that we've held around, you know, like the story may, may change, you know, may not change in terms of facts, but how you feel about it changes.
Rashida Khanbey Miller (14:09):
It starts to take a different place in like your own personal museum. Right. Like where it was originally in like the immediate triggers section, you know, right now it's just like, Oh, this was, these were things that were like really Fed UP, , but like, you know, they didn't make me stronger or anything like that, but it's like, this is something that really shaped who I am today, you know, is a big part of my, I don't know if anybody's like an animated movie fan, but if you inside out, it's like one of my core memories, right? Like, it's one of those things that, you know, really has defined who I am at this very moment. And so it's something that I honor, right. I can pay attention to it. I can acknowledge it. You know, I talk a lot about the grief of my, you know, my father passing and now the grief of taking care of my mother and, you know, being in this place with her, where I'm watching her age and watching her body, you know, just like do its thing. And we're in these, this reverse role, these are, this is grie that isn't just like, Oh, I need to get over it. You know what I mean? Like, Oh, like, you know, it'll be fine in a couple of days or in a couple months, I won't think about this. These are grapes that live with you forever. Right? Like they change you as a person and without them, you know what I mean? Like, it's, we, you know, we kind of float through our experience in this ideal. Right. But yeah.
Amanda Testa (15:34):
And I, first of all, just want to say, you know, I'm sorry for the loss of your father and no understanding that caregiving role and the stress involved it, you know, this time in life, when I feel like there's can be that transition where you go and you have to care for your, your elder family members. And I know for myself, my father died of early onset Alzheimer's. So he was like on a ten-year decline. And at the same time my mom was going through breast cancer. So I was like taking care of her. And I just remember one of these times being at home and feeling that really knowing like, I have too adult now. Right. I have too adult now.
Rashida Khanbey Miller (16:12):
Oh, I'm the adult here, adult. Oh, okay. That's very unfortunate. But, and you're like crying the entire time. Like, you know, it's like, why didn't we want to grow up? Like, what was, what was all that kicking and screaming we were doing? Like, this is not very fun, but yeah. You know, even just like in thinking about like those painful, like, like those painful memories, being that comfortable spot, I think about my own relationship with my mom around my sexuality and how, you know, when I came out as queer, like, you know, my family, she, and when I say my family, because I wasn't, you know, I grew up as an only child, even though I have a brother who passed away when I was younger, but my family, my mother did not respond very well to me coming out and, you know, didn't respond very well to like my exploration.
Rashida Khanbey Miller (17:06):
And she just, you know, she was carrying a lot of, her own, she didn't have the tools, there was a decade of her life, mean, an entire time period she and I didn't bond But she didn't have, she didn't have the tools to be able to manage it. You know, what was her own, you know, history and trauma. And then also be able to like, hold the space for me to have this exploration that really went against like everything that she was taught when she, when she was growing up. And so, you know, it was just that period, that of time that he shaped, you know, a big part of both of our lives and the way in which we related to each other and, you know, like the, the dynamic of our family and, you know, quite honestly that it was, you know, for me as a black queer person, you know, I think that, you know, a lot of people probably have, you know, similar, you know, stories of trauma with their families, where they had to, even if it wasn't the best timing, even if it wasn't, you know, the right, you know, the right mood for the moment, you know, had to strike out from their families or from their church spaces in order to like regain sanity.
Rashida Khanbey Miller (18:27):
Right. Because when you're constantly in this space of, you know, hearing this negative messaging or experiencing harm, or, you know, emotional or physical harm as a result of trying to step into and own your, you know, your sexual or gender identity which we understand to being a very complex and integral part of who we all are, right. Like innate, just, you know, from our reproductive health to the way that we show up in the world to the, you know, the policies and the law that like, you know, act in our favor, or don't like, you know, there's so much about gender and sex that like, it's, it's just intertwined into our day-to-day existence. So we can't, we can't avoid it, you know, unfortunately in these experiences with a lot of queer,queer black people, and it, within their family dynamics, they, they don't get that same nurturing or support or care, you know, as they're trying to find the language and figure things out and, you know, and that can lead to a lot of detriment and a lot of harm from housing insecurity to, you know, suicide ideation to, you know, just continued psychological, you know, damage, you know what I'm saying, just from like not having those, those structures in place.
Rashida Khanbey Miller (19:45):
And, and that can also be depending upon when this person came out. And so for me, I was like in the middle of high school, you know, so I went with my mom and I spent a lot of time in this really bad tug of war around, you know, my, my sexuality and, you know, it, it caused me to spiral into a lot of situations that were not, that were harmful or could have been, you know, dangerous. And as a result of like not having a space to talk, not having a space to really bring some of the concerns of the fears, you know, things that I was thinking about without feeling like that was going to create more, you know, more harm. And so, you know, it really wasn't until maybe a year or so before I got married to my spouse that did our relationship start to change. And so that was like, you know, maybe four or five years ago. And, you know, we just, we started to like, you know, we just started to talk more and, you know, this
Amanda Testa (20:48):
Was prior to my father passing who was also, you know, had a very negative reaction to my queerness and, you know, became violent physically and emotionally in the face as a result of me sharing with parents this piece of my life. And so, you know, I think that my mom's seeing how that experience, you know, how that impacted me. I think that, you know, made a shift for her in how she wanted to show up in the space and what she wanted those memories to be. Yeah. Yeah, no, the Messy Movement practice in all of the names that it's been known by has provided the structure and the safety net and the sanctuary that I needed, you know, to navigate the experiences that I was having. And also knowing that even though this experience was happening with them, it was know.
Amanda Testa (21:54):
And yeah, it sounds like, you know, even with all that you were experiencing and all the pain and having that, that sanctuary of that Messy Movement practice, to be able to create a safe space for you to have that safety net, to be able to have the experiences to feel and move through all you were experiencing, it sounds like, hello, can you hear me? Yeah, I can hear you. Can you hear me? Yes, I can. Okay. Cut out for a minute again, but yeah. And you know, as we're talking too, I just noticed the sound of the water in the background and it just feels so soothing to me to hear. Yeah.
Amanda Testa (22:46):
I was just wondering if it might be okay to take a moment just to listen to the waves [inaudible] for me, I feel like nature is such a huge resource because I feel like oftentimes it feels challenging for me to feel supported in some ways, but always with nature, I can feel the connection that there's something bigger than me that can hold whatever is present so it just feels good for me to connect to, So thank you. And I'd love to, if you'd share more about, you know, I know you mentioned your, your, the creation of the Messy Movement lab has, you know, changed morphed over time, but tell me a little bit more about, about that program in that practice and how, you know, how it can help, help people to connect to that resource of dance and movement.
Rashida Khanbey Miller (24:00):
Yeah. You know, I think what I was saying was like, you know, the messy movement practice as it's, you know, all the names it's been known by over the last 10 years created that sanctuary for me to be able to, you know, feel supported and to feel held and to feel like I, you know, had a space where I could unravel and where I had a space where I could like let my guard down and let my body have an opportunity to experience rest, to experience pleasure, to experience connection, even in the midst of all of the things that were happening around me. And so what I love about the work is that, you know, it's really, it, it doesn't require you to have a whole lot of space or, you know, for you to have any props or costumes or anything of the sort.
Rashida Khanbey Miller (24:57):
Now, of course you can add those things later to enhance your practice, but the very base of our practices, being able to stop, drop, and dance wherever you are, and allow your body to sink into that moment and to check in with what your body is experiencing mentally, emotionally, and to you, that energy to be a catalyst for your practice and understanding that our, our, our knowing of the erotic is not just in having experiences that are, you know, rooted in like seduction or in that, in that arena, but also in just being able to feel whatever, be emotional, whatever the experiences, whether that's grief or rage or disappointment or curiosity, or, you know, tenderness or anxiety or seduction or playfulness or lust or joy, like wherever you're at, knowing that there is a space on the spectrum of this practice for you to enter it and get what you need so that you can be restored. And it's never about, Oh, well, you know, I'm in a good place. I don't need it today. It's like, even when you have enough, pour in some more, right, like fill the tank up so that it's overflowing as opposed to just operating, on, you know, barely enough or just enough, or just enough to get by, right. Like giving yourself a reservoir, you know, that you can pull from as you're moving through your day to day life.
Amanda Testa (26:32):
Yeah. I think that, that coming back to it again, and again, is so key because like you said, being able to drop in, I love how you said stop drop and dance. That, you know, I'm wondering too, if it might feel okay to perhaps share maybe one or two things, if someone's listening is like, well, that sounds like it'd be awesome, but I don't know how to go about it. What would I do?
Rashida Khanbey Miller (26:58):
Oh man. You know, I think one of the first things that I love that we actually started doing this, you know, I want you to just take a second and close your eyes, and I want you to just hear the sound that's around you. What sounds do you notice starting right there in that place and just allowing your body to breathe really generously, maybe even bringing your hands to your stomach, allowing yourself to find that point of connection, maybe your hands need to be on your heart or your hips or on the back of your neck, on top of your head, wherever it is, just finding that connection. You know, like you can start with your music, you know, grab and song. Literally. I challenge you to do any song as opposed to trying to find the right song. And when you put it on starting right there, again, from that place of connecting to the body and letting your body determine what the move is, as opposed to you trying to decide what your day, we all know how to dance, we all know how to move our bodies in ways that, you know, feel good and feel, you know, like just exciting in the moment.
Rashida Khanbey Miller (28:26):
And so whatever the song is, just letting your body react to the music and finding your dance right there every day, five minutes will change your life.
Amanda Testa (28:38):
So, so good. Thank you so much. And you know, I think that's, what's so beautiful cause your program is available online now, right? So it can reach anyone in the world.
Rashida Khanbey Miller (28:50):
Yes, yes, yes. We have students all over our, and you know, we make sure that we have classes that are available and, you know, different timing so that everyone gets a chance to get in on some of the live experiences and you know, and it's really a place of multiple classes available throughout the week, all on mine. And there's also a pre-recorded classes in, you'll take advantage of when you sign up for the space so that, you know, like if you're not able to make one of the live classes, you don't have to worry about missing out. And then we provide accountability and social support. And just like being a part of a community of people who are doing this practice and doing this work and really making a commitment to come back into the body of the pleasure Practice. I feel that it's such a crucial part of being able to stay committed. I mean, when you're doing it alone and isolated it's hard to kind of source grandfather, that faith and all that energy in when you're having a day where you're doubting yourself or when you're not feeling motivated, but to see someone else, you know, be able to move from their own doubt or, you know, give you that inspiration or that catalyst to move again like death.
Amanda Testa (30:06):
Right. I so agree in the community spaces are so important. I think too, because there is so much maybe shame or all the things that can come up and I feel having that group to lean into can just offer so much more and so much more of an opportunity, like you said, when you're not quite feeling it to get, to get some energy from the group or vice versa, if you have more to give the group can receive and you know, it's such a beautiful,
Rashida Khanbey Miller (30:35):
I love that about groups
Amanda Testa (30:39):
Sowell Rashi, This has been such a pleasure to talk with you. And I'm wondering too, if there's any, and I want to give you an opportunity to share where everyone connect can connect with you. But first I'd love to hear, you know, if you have any, any last words or maybe if there was a question that you wished that I would have asked that I didn't ask,
Rashida Khanbey Miller (30:56):
Oh my God, I feel like we covered such a, a nice range. And just being able to talk about the presence of the body and, and talking about how, you know, past pain and grief kind of wraps around that, that that's really good. Thank you for giving me the space to share and to talk openly.
Amanda Testa (31:18):
It's an honor to have you, and if people are listening in they're feeling called to connect, what's the best way to find, to find more about you and to work with you?
Rashida Khanbey Miller (31:28):
Yeah, absolutely. On all of our information about classes is available on themessymovementlab.com and you can also find us on Facebook and Instagram at the messymovementlab. I'm looking forward to reaching out. You have questions, please don't hesitate to send us an email or send us a message and we'd be happy to help.
Amanda Testa (31:51):
And I'll also make sure to post in the show notes, all of Rashi's links so you can connect and learn more about her and her work and the messy movement lab and all the awesome things she's got going on. Yes. And thank you all for listening. See you next week. Thank you so much for listening to the find your feminine fire podcast. This is your host, Amanda Testa. And if you have felt a calling while listening to this podcast to take this work to a deeper level, this is your golden invitation. I invite you to reach out. You can contact at amandatesta.com/activate, and we can have a heart to heart to discuss more about how this work can transform your life. You can also join us on Facebook in the group Fnd Your Feminine Fire Group. And if you've this podcast, Please share with your friends, go to iTunes and give me a five star rating and a raving review. So I can connect with other amazing listeners like yourself. Thank you so much for being a part of the community.